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blast off on another episode of hero

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paranormal podcast

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broadcasting from the base at la madre

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mountain just south of

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area 51 my name is ryan the original

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outlaw of the airwaves bringing you

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an epic episode today we have

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adam taula who is well kind of a utah

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paranormal sensation i've been on

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investigations with adam

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he's the real deal and it's been a while

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since i've talked to him so i'm really

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excited to ask him

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about the recent government ufo report

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he follows these types of things and i'm

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really interested to find his

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perspective

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on what is going on i actually spoke

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earlier today about the same subject

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matter

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uh with someone from the deseret news

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that article should be coming out

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in correspondence with some other people

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who were in basically interviewed

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and that should be coming out in a

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couple days so that should be exciting

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adam and i have not investigated

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recently but in the past i went

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on a paranormal investigation to a

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railway station of all things

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a haunted railway station and

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among the things that happened to us

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i'll be honest i mean i was a i was a

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skeptic in a hard sell but

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we had actual toilets flushing on us

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and there were other things

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so there was a lot of paranormal

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don't know if we can mention where it

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what happened but i'm going to wait and

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see what adam says and if we can we will

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and there's there's been a lot of

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speculation as to the recent ufo

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government report i think

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it's going to hold a lot of answers in

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the long term right now it kind of seems

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like a big nothing burger but

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let's see where this goes without

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further ado and oh wait

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i've gotta self promote that

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actually it's just hero paranormal on

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there's this shameless self promotion

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now without further ado

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adam taula welcome to the hero

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paranormal podcast my man

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i think i lost you there for a second

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you there good just

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just been busy doing house stuff

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a suburban person you know

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right and i haven't talked to you since

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all this crazy coveted stuff i know you

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guys got a house and

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things are going well i saw that uh

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i saw something what's up with the

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youtube channel the paranormal

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yeah um it's just this new thing i

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decided to start i figured

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i've been to so many places over the

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go back and just kind of share the

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stories of the experiences

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i've moved so many times i'm trying to

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find all my evidence but i still can't

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find everything

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but um yeah i wanted to do a travel

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channel where i go to different haunted

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locations or just

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talk about history of cool places or

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you know weird or interesting i find

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if i could be mistaken on this you had

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um i believe your whole youtube channel

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deleted or disappeared one day right

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yeah i did i i did that myself

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and uh so that was fun i did i deleted

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that's how good i am with the technology

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ryan like an 80 year old woman

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i still have no idea what i'm doing hey

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i don't either

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it's a miracle that anything works and

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i was going to ask you we had a few cool

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one of the cool ones was down at the

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haunted railway station where the

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toilets were flushing and other stuff

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happened do you remember that

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investigation

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i do yeah at the at the depot

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yeah i didn't know is it okay to say

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where it's at and

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can you want to tell the listeners

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absolutely oh cool

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are you okay with so are we going to

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talk about your bed and breakfast since

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we're so amazing let's go there yeah

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let's go there let's do it i don't know

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what all you're

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yeah wanting to speak about but um i

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know we've got some crazy stories

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over the years we do one of the craziest

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i remember we went up into the uinta

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basin and we were with some other people

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i mean other people have done this as

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well and they they just say i'm done i'm

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not coming back here

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you want to go into that one that was

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pretty fun yeah

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um you'll there there there's so many

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things that happened out there

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i'm just trying to narrow it down i mean

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do you remember like well the one that

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sticks out of my mind is the last

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time we went when we were with sarah

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but no feel free to talk about anything

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you were there so you know some crazy

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that place is nuts it is nuts and i

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engaging with some lights up on a ridge

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it was we were all seeing it happen

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the footage

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there's nothing in the camera and so

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it's like we were all hallucinating it

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that that's one of the big ones

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about the queen mary because i had just

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then we all started hearing a little

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face brush do you remember that i do i

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the the flashing mountain that you used

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yeah and you went up to the right you

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bit back then

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and it was pretty active before now it's

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just i've rented it to a family that's

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okay with that kind of thing and they

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they're really good fit yeah so that's

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it's like a good fit for right now

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in that mountain you're not kidding it

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would just light up and pulse and do all

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some big black thing crawling

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they're the tall man like remember the

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tall guy that people were seeing running

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that was freaky you know ever a lot of

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one day and yeah that you know kind of

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looking into these aren't it

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it's like they're different i know yeah

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poltergeist type things happening in in

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i remember you know having janice next

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by the front of the house and just was

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shouting at me to get up

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and there was no one there i just

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yeah poltergeist type stuff

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and you know that room's interesting

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there was actually a case

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uh there was a tv crew up recording i

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he had no idea what had happened didn't

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i mean very strange stuff has happened

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that room is definitely the room that

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i was just like super uncomfortable and

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i always was like janice you better be

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getting in here and sleeping with me in

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i'm not sleeping by myself in this room

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i just remember that room

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was always kind of off right

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and um something strange is it was

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always closest to that woodshed

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which always kind of had for some reason

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it was always the i don't know

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i i saw a few things retreat behind the

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woodshed but

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the we used to have some uh pretty good

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sky watches

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up there i kind of missed that that was

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a good time

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i know that was a lot of fun that was a

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i wish i wish there was a way to go out

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do that again sometime you know legally

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if i know you can't and there's just

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so many people trying to go out there

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because of the show that's on right

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so who knows one of these days

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and speaking of like gosh so much going

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ufos in the sky um what do you think of

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the new government reports on ufos and

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what's your opinion on that subject

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but um i haven't had a chance to even

285
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look at them all but i

286
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i think that's awesome i mean it's funny

287
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that it's taking this long

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right right it really it

289
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it's been a long time and it's about

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time it's about time it starts getting

291
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some recognition it's um

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i don't know it's horrific it's one of

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those things that like

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mankind has always sort of culturally

295
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seen this

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in the past historically and it's funny

297
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that now we're engaging in such a more

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a much more modern way than mankind did

299
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yeah i know i just

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it's just funny to me that there's just

301
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so many people

302
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that can't grasp that that could be a

303
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possibility i don't know

304
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don't you think i mean after all the

305
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things that you've seen

306
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after oh yeah

307
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and it's one of those things there's a

308
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lot of documentation there's

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government finances going towards

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studying it right there in the uintah

311
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basin

312
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you know where we were seeing it and the

313
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interesting thing is i mean we're

314
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talking about

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it's i believe it was called the

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advanced aerial threat identification

317
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program atip

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was right there in the uintah basin and

319
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the interesting thing is not only

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is it it's getting government attention

321
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but they're

322
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worried about it and yeah really

323
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yeah like i guess when you see i'm so

324
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sorry i should have i

325
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i've had such a crazy crazy week

326
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so i haven't even looked into this um so

327
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so tell me a little more i'm sorry so

328
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that they're saying was this with

329
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with bigelow's thing or

330
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well it was at the time uh

331
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now that it's hard to get foia requests

332
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on a tip you get a lot more stuff about

333
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osap which was like more of a weapons

334
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application system that came after

335
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but yes the agent or the

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for plausible deniability the private

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contractor

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was bigelow and um so yeah

339
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pretty interesting stuff and you know it

340
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gets into quantum technologies and

341
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it's it's really interesting to see

342
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these tricksters of the sky whatever

343
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they are

344
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and it's getting uh it's definitely

345
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getting

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some some attraction from

347
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national media and the government itself

348
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so i mean that's a good thing i'm with

349
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you i think it's a great that is

350
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i always i always knew that i mean there

351
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just had to be

352
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so much more to that place than

353
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than any of us know so that is really

354
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neat

355
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to know that they've actually brought

356
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that to

357
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to white so i can't wait to read more

358
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about everything

359
00:13:25,990 --> 00:13:23,920
i'm gonna take a look at everything it's

360
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it's a long and boring report but like

361
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those are the highlights but there's

362
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some other

363
00:13:31,190 --> 00:13:30,480
interesting stuff that um actually one

364
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of the

365
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space wolf research guys jonathan hunt

366
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he found some really interesting

367
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i don't know if it's real i don't know

368
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if it's not but it's like

369
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leaks and uh that were supposedly

370
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sent to richard dolan among others that

371
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he's kind of tied together with this

372
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k-song propulsion system anyway i'll

373
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give you the quick rundown like the

374
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leaked

375
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was a day ago

376
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and okay um the classified portion of

377
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the uap

378
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report given to a select number of

379
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congressmen

380
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and senators relates the following uh

381
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one

382
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energy propulsion system projects and

383
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then

384
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two ion propulsion systems

385
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three is anti-gravity propulsion systems

386
00:14:23,829 --> 00:14:20,440
four is

387
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anti-matter propulsion systems

388
00:14:27,590 --> 00:14:26,800
five is ramjet hydrogen propulsion

389
00:14:30,550 --> 00:14:27,600
systems

390
00:14:31,509 --> 00:14:30,560
six is compressed nuclear propulsion

391
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systems

392
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seven is advanced use of exotic elements

393
00:14:38,069 --> 00:14:35,040
for

394
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energy research and eight

395
00:14:42,710 --> 00:14:41,440
is the kaesong energy propulsion system

396
00:14:45,670 --> 00:14:42,720
research project

397
00:14:47,509 --> 00:14:45,680
and this is the big one i guess so all

398
00:14:49,030 --> 00:14:47,519
basically k-song all these highly

399
00:14:50,470 --> 00:14:49,040
classified projects are under the

400
00:14:53,750 --> 00:14:50,480
control of the defense

401
00:14:56,790 --> 00:14:53,760
advanced research project agency darpa

402
00:14:57,750 --> 00:14:56,800
and being managed by a classified group

403
00:15:00,150 --> 00:14:57,760
called

404
00:15:01,670 --> 00:15:00,160
advanced group six so i guess all the

405
00:15:04,949 --> 00:15:01,680
funding for these projects

406
00:15:07,350 --> 00:15:04,959
is black confidential funds appropriated

407
00:15:09,910 --> 00:15:07,360
under intelligence operations costs and

408
00:15:11,430 --> 00:15:09,920
some funds come from the private

409
00:15:13,990 --> 00:15:11,440
contractors

410
00:15:15,990 --> 00:15:14,000
uh prototypes of flying crafts utilizing

411
00:15:18,629 --> 00:15:16,000
the above technology are being flown at

412
00:15:21,829 --> 00:15:18,639
area 51 and tonepop test range

413
00:15:24,790 --> 00:15:21,839
prototypes of flying crafts utilizing

414
00:15:26,949 --> 00:15:24,800
let's see this in nevada can be

415
00:15:28,550 --> 00:15:26,959
contributed to crafts using the above

416
00:15:31,910 --> 00:15:28,560
propulsion systems

417
00:15:34,790 --> 00:15:31,920
however none of the experimental craft

418
00:15:35,990 --> 00:15:34,800
have flown outside of the test and

419
00:15:38,389 --> 00:15:36,000
training range

420
00:15:40,310 --> 00:15:38,399
and none of these experimental craft can

421
00:15:41,910 --> 00:15:40,320
be contributed to the sightings

422
00:15:43,269 --> 00:15:41,920
photographed by the us navy so they're

423
00:15:45,749 --> 00:15:43,279
kind of saying

424
00:15:46,790 --> 00:15:45,759
we i don't know the leak kind of says

425
00:15:49,990 --> 00:15:46,800
that

426
00:15:52,150 --> 00:15:50,000
this stuff is happening and

427
00:15:53,990 --> 00:15:52,160
what jonathan found which is pretty cool

428
00:15:57,350 --> 00:15:54,000
is that he thinks he found the doctor

429
00:15:59,590 --> 00:15:57,360
called k song who wrote

430
00:16:02,069 --> 00:15:59,600
he wrote a paper called preliminary

431
00:16:03,749 --> 00:16:02,079
operational aspects of microwave-powered

432
00:16:06,949 --> 00:16:03,759
airships and drones

433
00:16:08,550 --> 00:16:06,959
so he might be on to something and

434
00:16:11,670 --> 00:16:08,560
the really cool thing that jonathan

435
00:16:13,910 --> 00:16:11,680
found is that this preliminary opera

436
00:16:15,430 --> 00:16:13,920
operational system i'll just read the

437
00:16:16,790 --> 00:16:15,440
abstract to the paper that this guy

438
00:16:20,150 --> 00:16:16,800
wrote so i don't read the whole

439
00:16:22,230 --> 00:16:20,160
however zillions of pages uh

440
00:16:24,470 --> 00:16:22,240
but the paper that this doctor wrote dr

441
00:16:26,710 --> 00:16:24,480
k song and i won't say his full name but

442
00:16:28,870 --> 00:16:26,720
the paper reports the development of an

443
00:16:30,310 --> 00:16:28,880
experimental airship drone powered by

444
00:16:32,629 --> 00:16:30,320
microwaves

445
00:16:34,710 --> 00:16:32,639
as a precursor towards a large-scale

446
00:16:37,030 --> 00:16:34,720
airship drone for cargo transportation

447
00:16:38,949 --> 00:16:37,040
in mind under the collaboration with the

448
00:16:41,670 --> 00:16:38,959
us federal highway administration

449
00:16:43,590 --> 00:16:41,680
and universities now the weird thing is

450
00:16:45,430 --> 00:16:43,600
the research work on a 2.2

451
00:16:46,629 --> 00:16:45,440
m long airship i don't know if that's

452
00:16:49,910 --> 00:16:46,639
miles

453
00:16:50,710 --> 00:16:49,920
or meters or millimeters but i guess

454
00:16:53,910 --> 00:16:50,720
it's powered by

455
00:16:55,430 --> 00:16:53,920
x-band microwaves and has provided

456
00:16:56,870 --> 00:16:55,440
sufficient data for the design and

457
00:16:59,910 --> 00:16:56,880
analysis for the operation

458
00:17:01,509 --> 00:16:59,920
airship drone um let's see and then it

459
00:17:02,069 --> 00:17:01,519
goes into explaining how it works which

460
00:17:05,350 --> 00:17:02,079
is

461
00:17:07,110 --> 00:17:05,360
beyond my pay grade and uh

462
00:17:08,949 --> 00:17:07,120
anyway the data shows the feasibility of

463
00:17:11,270 --> 00:17:08,959
practical use and the microwave

464
00:17:13,029 --> 00:17:11,280
power for a transportation airship drone

465
00:17:15,110 --> 00:17:13,039
enough that they've backed him

466
00:17:16,710 --> 00:17:15,120
so i don't know like we i think we have

467
00:17:19,189 --> 00:17:16,720
some pretty cool stuff

468
00:17:20,549 --> 00:17:19,199
but again i don't think it's the stuff

469
00:17:23,750 --> 00:17:20,559
like they're saying

470
00:17:26,870 --> 00:17:23,760
that these navy ships are you know these

471
00:17:29,990 --> 00:17:26,880
pilots are recording

472
00:17:34,230 --> 00:17:31,990
you know it's hard to say because

473
00:17:36,150 --> 00:17:34,240
mankind has always sort of seen stuff in

474
00:17:36,710 --> 00:17:36,160
the sky and tried to explain it with the

475
00:17:39,510 --> 00:17:36,720
best

476
00:17:40,070 --> 00:17:39,520
means it has possible at the time so

477
00:17:41,669 --> 00:17:40,080
back in

478
00:17:43,350 --> 00:17:41,679
biblical times obviously they were

479
00:17:44,789 --> 00:17:43,360
calling them angels and demons and

480
00:17:46,630 --> 00:17:44,799
burning bushes and

481
00:17:48,070 --> 00:17:46,640
and all this crazy cool stuff and it's

482
00:17:49,750 --> 00:17:48,080
it's in all kinds of biblical

483
00:17:50,470 --> 00:17:49,760
interpretation and paintings and

484
00:17:53,990 --> 00:17:50,480
pictures

485
00:17:55,510 --> 00:17:54,000
and such illustrations but i think you

486
00:17:57,029 --> 00:17:55,520
know these tricksters of this guy

487
00:18:00,070 --> 00:17:57,039
whatever you want to call them now

488
00:18:03,750 --> 00:18:00,080
we are trying to pick them apart

489
00:18:06,870 --> 00:18:03,760
via technology and that

490
00:18:08,070 --> 00:18:06,880
is interesting because it appears to be

491
00:18:10,630 --> 00:18:08,080
technology to us

492
00:18:11,110 --> 00:18:10,640
but it did not appear to be technology

493
00:18:13,270 --> 00:18:11,120
to

494
00:18:14,950 --> 00:18:13,280
the ancients or the you know more

495
00:18:17,110 --> 00:18:14,960
historic clans of

496
00:18:18,789 --> 00:18:17,120
people tribes and cultures that have

497
00:18:20,390 --> 00:18:18,799
interacted with in the past so

498
00:18:21,830 --> 00:18:20,400
it's almost like whatever you bring to

499
00:18:23,669 --> 00:18:21,840
the table however you want to

500
00:18:25,029 --> 00:18:23,679
view it is how you view it and i'm just

501
00:18:27,110 --> 00:18:25,039
wondering if it's

502
00:18:29,590 --> 00:18:27,120
mimicking actual technology when it's

503
00:18:31,750 --> 00:18:29,600
not or if it is a real technology it's

504
00:18:34,470 --> 00:18:31,760
it's pretty cool

505
00:18:36,710 --> 00:18:34,480
that is crazy that is crazy and that's

506
00:18:39,110 --> 00:18:36,720
so over my head ryan geez

507
00:18:39,750 --> 00:18:39,120
that's like like i need to have a day

508
00:18:43,830 --> 00:18:39,760
and like

509
00:18:46,710 --> 00:18:43,840
like think about all of this i i

510
00:18:47,270 --> 00:18:46,720
yeah that's pretty amazing i can't

511
00:18:50,310 --> 00:18:47,280
believe

512
00:18:51,909 --> 00:18:50,320
i mean and that's just been

513
00:18:53,909 --> 00:18:51,919
it's just been happening right there in

514
00:18:56,950 --> 00:18:53,919
your backyard i mean yeah

515
00:18:58,870 --> 00:18:56,960
we've seen this stuff for years and i

516
00:19:01,110 --> 00:18:58,880
think the high deserts have some and you

517
00:19:04,230 --> 00:19:01,120
know obviously there's less people

518
00:19:07,270 --> 00:19:04,240
and you're able to see more of the sky

519
00:19:09,510 --> 00:19:07,280
but there is something very different

520
00:19:11,750 --> 00:19:09,520
going on in the skies of the uintah

521
00:19:14,070 --> 00:19:11,760
basin it seems

522
00:19:15,350 --> 00:19:14,080
and i like me and i don't know anything

523
00:19:17,110 --> 00:19:15,360
of course but

524
00:19:19,909 --> 00:19:17,120
i think it's like a combination of

525
00:19:24,310 --> 00:19:19,919
multiple things you know

526
00:19:27,270 --> 00:19:24,320
i think the native people have

527
00:19:29,909 --> 00:19:27,280
some really strong stories and reasons

528
00:19:31,669 --> 00:19:29,919
to be afraid of that area

529
00:19:33,750 --> 00:19:31,679
and then i also think i think there

530
00:19:35,510 --> 00:19:33,760
could be multiple things going on

531
00:19:37,110 --> 00:19:35,520
with testing you know like i think

532
00:19:39,669 --> 00:19:37,120
there's just more to it

533
00:19:41,909 --> 00:19:39,679
there's just there's no one explanation

534
00:19:45,430 --> 00:19:41,919
that's what makes that place so

535
00:19:47,750 --> 00:19:45,440
intriguing um

536
00:19:48,870 --> 00:19:47,760
i agree unlike anywhere else and i'm

537
00:19:50,549 --> 00:19:48,880
glad you bring up the

538
00:19:53,190 --> 00:19:50,559
native american aspect because i think

539
00:19:56,950 --> 00:19:53,200
that's a really big part of it and

540
00:19:59,909 --> 00:19:56,960
and you know it's very important to that

541
00:20:01,830 --> 00:19:59,919
area and the people of that area

542
00:20:04,710 --> 00:20:01,840
it is and it's you know it's not

543
00:20:07,110 --> 00:20:04,720
anything they take lightly

544
00:20:10,149 --> 00:20:07,120
and so that's why i'm always so torn

545
00:20:12,310 --> 00:20:10,159
about it too because i just

546
00:20:13,590 --> 00:20:12,320
i know my husband's very my husband's

547
00:20:18,149 --> 00:20:13,600
dad grew up

548
00:20:20,870 --> 00:20:18,159
there he he raised uh cattle and cheap

549
00:20:22,310 --> 00:20:20,880
is that right okay yeah and so he's he's

550
00:20:26,630 --> 00:20:22,320
from duchesne

551
00:20:29,029 --> 00:20:26,640
and um so he had so many stories of just

552
00:20:30,710 --> 00:20:29,039
places you don't go you know you just

553
00:20:32,950 --> 00:20:30,720
you just don't go there in that area and

554
00:20:37,430 --> 00:20:32,960
they were just always told

555
00:20:39,029 --> 00:20:37,440
to never go in that vicinity but

556
00:20:40,789 --> 00:20:39,039
yeah it's just it's a part of the

557
00:20:43,029 --> 00:20:40,799
culture in the area

558
00:20:45,510 --> 00:20:43,039
and it reminds me so much of my culture

559
00:20:47,590 --> 00:20:45,520
which is so similar to native american i

560
00:20:49,750 --> 00:20:47,600
mean it's the same thing

561
00:20:52,549 --> 00:20:49,760
native pacific islanders we have all the

562
00:20:55,590 --> 00:20:52,559
same stories of skin walkers

563
00:20:57,350 --> 00:20:55,600
in in our culture as well so it's just

564
00:21:00,789 --> 00:20:57,360
very interesting

565
00:21:02,390 --> 00:21:00,799
and i felt um yeah i don't know i feel a

566
00:21:04,230 --> 00:21:02,400
very weird connection

567
00:21:05,990 --> 00:21:04,240
to that place place like nine mile

568
00:21:09,990 --> 00:21:06,000
canyon which also

569
00:21:12,549 --> 00:21:10,000
slightly terrifies me very much yes

570
00:21:14,950 --> 00:21:12,559
and it's just like it's a feeling i

571
00:21:16,789 --> 00:21:14,960
can't explain that other people that go

572
00:21:18,549 --> 00:21:16,799
they don't get that same feeling i don't

573
00:21:19,590 --> 00:21:18,559
know i don't know what i'm even trying

574
00:21:21,190 --> 00:21:19,600
to say

575
00:21:24,149 --> 00:21:21,200
but it's just like something that i'm

576
00:21:27,669 --> 00:21:24,159
drawn to

577
00:21:29,590 --> 00:21:27,679
and it's not anything that's even

578
00:21:31,110 --> 00:21:29,600
like malicious it's just like something

579
00:21:34,149 --> 00:21:31,120
ancient

580
00:21:35,990 --> 00:21:34,159
that draws me to those areas that i that

581
00:21:39,029 --> 00:21:36,000
i can't explain

582
00:21:42,390 --> 00:21:39,039
um like i feel some sort of connection

583
00:21:45,510 --> 00:21:42,400
if that makes any sense yeah and i think

584
00:21:48,789 --> 00:21:45,520
i think you are more sensitive to like

585
00:21:51,750 --> 00:21:48,799
that into the fray type power

586
00:21:53,029 --> 00:21:51,760
and you're more more of an empath at

587
00:21:55,270 --> 00:21:53,039
least in my opinion

588
00:21:57,190 --> 00:21:55,280
just from what i've seen it's and what

589
00:22:00,149 --> 00:21:57,200
i've read and researched

590
00:22:01,750 --> 00:22:00,159
people that are more in tune are more

591
00:22:04,549 --> 00:22:01,760
conducive to that you know

592
00:22:07,830 --> 00:22:04,559
and to those feelings and to the areas

593
00:22:10,870 --> 00:22:07,840
and they have more of a connection

594
00:22:13,029 --> 00:22:10,880
yeah and it's uh

595
00:22:15,270 --> 00:22:13,039
i've yeah i felt feelings there that

596
00:22:18,549 --> 00:22:15,280
i've never felt my life you know

597
00:22:20,789 --> 00:22:18,559
from extreme terror to amazement

598
00:22:22,149 --> 00:22:20,799
i mean just the whole spectrum of

599
00:22:26,230 --> 00:22:22,159
everything

600
00:22:27,750 --> 00:22:26,240
um and it's the only place i've ever

601
00:22:30,310 --> 00:22:27,760
felt that way are in some of these

602
00:22:32,950 --> 00:22:30,320
ancient spots i've gone to in utah like

603
00:22:33,909 --> 00:22:32,960
like the parawan gap i went there

604
00:22:37,190 --> 00:22:33,919
recently and that

605
00:22:39,510 --> 00:22:37,200
i had a whole thing there and i just

606
00:22:43,350 --> 00:22:39,520
felt that same sort of crazy

607
00:22:46,390 --> 00:22:43,360
connection that i felt in

608
00:22:47,270 --> 00:22:46,400
skinwalker ranch you know and i've never

609
00:22:49,830 --> 00:22:47,280
felt it in

610
00:22:52,070 --> 00:22:49,840
the only other place i've ever felt it

611
00:22:55,350 --> 00:22:52,080
is when i'm on the islands

612
00:22:58,789 --> 00:22:55,360
you know where my dad was was from and

613
00:23:01,430 --> 00:22:58,799
i'm you know there

614
00:23:03,669 --> 00:23:01,440
that's the only other place i felt that

615
00:23:06,710 --> 00:23:03,679
sort of connection

616
00:23:10,310 --> 00:23:06,720
so i don't know what that means but

617
00:23:11,750 --> 00:23:10,320
it's just it's super super weird and

618
00:23:14,390 --> 00:23:11,760
interesting

619
00:23:16,390 --> 00:23:14,400
that is super cool and the parawan is an

620
00:23:17,750 --> 00:23:16,400
interesting area and i

621
00:23:19,990 --> 00:23:17,760
you know an interesting thing about the

622
00:23:24,070 --> 00:23:20,000
name parawan

623
00:23:26,230 --> 00:23:24,080
is it means in native american uh

624
00:23:28,470 --> 00:23:26,240
the language of the area there it means

625
00:23:31,510 --> 00:23:28,480
the devil is in the water

626
00:23:33,830 --> 00:23:31,520
yeah yeah

627
00:23:36,630 --> 00:23:33,840
which is such a such a crazy name for

628
00:23:38,390 --> 00:23:36,640
like an area yeah go figure that sounds

629
00:23:40,549 --> 00:23:38,400
and that's kind of what yeah that's what

630
00:23:43,269 --> 00:23:40,559
it kind of felt like i felt very

631
00:23:45,430 --> 00:23:43,279
very cautious there i felt like i had to

632
00:23:51,669 --> 00:23:45,440
be very cautious

633
00:23:53,590 --> 00:23:51,679
and reverent just like respectful uh

634
00:23:55,510 --> 00:23:53,600
you know like you know i've gone off the

635
00:23:56,870 --> 00:23:55,520
rails on ghost investigations we all

636
00:24:00,390 --> 00:23:56,880
know this and

637
00:24:01,750 --> 00:24:00,400
i love to have fun and screw around sure

638
00:24:03,269 --> 00:24:01,760
you know when when the nights are

639
00:24:04,390 --> 00:24:03,279
getting long and nothing's happening and

640
00:24:06,549 --> 00:24:04,400
you want to

641
00:24:08,870 --> 00:24:06,559
chat with your group members but you

642
00:24:12,549 --> 00:24:08,880
know in these kinds of places

643
00:24:17,269 --> 00:24:12,559
yeah i don't feel like i can do that

644
00:24:19,750 --> 00:24:17,279
it's it's very yeah it's very deep and

645
00:24:21,750 --> 00:24:19,760
strange to me yeah it's like there's not

646
00:24:22,470 --> 00:24:21,760
really a lot of room for mistakes in

647
00:24:24,070 --> 00:24:22,480
these areas

648
00:24:25,830 --> 00:24:24,080
versus you know like you said some of

649
00:24:27,269 --> 00:24:25,840
these ghost investigations when it's

650
00:24:29,350 --> 00:24:27,279
like obvious nothing's gonna happen for

651
00:24:32,630 --> 00:24:29,360
a while it's like we can hang out but

652
00:24:35,350 --> 00:24:32,640
yeah it's really different

653
00:24:36,870 --> 00:24:35,360
yeah and i just that's just something

654
00:24:39,350 --> 00:24:36,880
that's so neat about this

655
00:24:42,870 --> 00:24:39,360
place that we live this area of the

656
00:24:44,549 --> 00:24:42,880
world it's just it is it's unlike

657
00:24:46,149 --> 00:24:44,559
it really is unlike anywhere else and

658
00:24:48,630 --> 00:24:46,159
i've i've been i

659
00:24:49,350 --> 00:24:48,640
you know i've traveled a lot in my life

660
00:24:51,269 --> 00:24:49,360
and

661
00:24:53,510 --> 00:24:51,279
you know you just can't find the things

662
00:24:57,029 --> 00:24:53,520
that we have here

663
00:25:00,390 --> 00:24:57,039
um so

664
00:25:02,549 --> 00:25:00,400
who knows that's why it's paranormal

665
00:25:03,430 --> 00:25:02,559
it is paranormal and it like it leads

666
00:25:05,430 --> 00:25:03,440
into so much

667
00:25:07,269 --> 00:25:05,440
other things like the multiverse theory

668
00:25:09,430 --> 00:25:07,279
and i wanted to jump into

669
00:25:10,710 --> 00:25:09,440
in your investigations adam i haven't we

670
00:25:12,070 --> 00:25:10,720
haven't talked for a while have you

671
00:25:13,830 --> 00:25:12,080
utilized any of that

672
00:25:16,149 --> 00:25:13,840
new technology what is it they have

673
00:25:17,830 --> 00:25:16,159
randomitica now they have different ai

674
00:25:19,269 --> 00:25:17,840
technologies where you can like go to

675
00:25:21,750 --> 00:25:19,279
specific points and

676
00:25:23,269 --> 00:25:21,760
or have you used any new technology that

677
00:25:23,590 --> 00:25:23,279
we weren't using back in the day that

678
00:25:25,830 --> 00:25:23,600
has

679
00:25:27,510 --> 00:25:25,840
been helpful ghost hunting or doing

680
00:25:30,950 --> 00:25:27,520
anything of this type

681
00:25:32,630 --> 00:25:30,960
you know it's so funny because i

682
00:25:34,950 --> 00:25:32,640
i've gone out with plenty of people that

683
00:25:37,190 --> 00:25:34,960
do use all of those things

684
00:25:38,789 --> 00:25:37,200
um i'm the worst because i'm just like

685
00:25:41,909 --> 00:25:38,799
kind of skeptical

686
00:25:43,669 --> 00:25:41,919
about some of these and i know they're

687
00:25:45,750 --> 00:25:43,679
scientifically backed but

688
00:25:47,510 --> 00:25:45,760
if it's like an app on my cell phone i'm

689
00:25:48,549 --> 00:25:47,520
not going to ever really trust that of

690
00:25:50,740 --> 00:25:48,559
course

691
00:25:52,310 --> 00:25:50,750
i i just um

692
00:25:54,710 --> 00:25:52,320
[Music]

693
00:25:56,390 --> 00:25:54,720
i don't really even need it if that

694
00:25:57,510 --> 00:25:56,400
makes sense like i don't need to prove

695
00:25:59,909 --> 00:25:57,520
anything

696
00:26:01,190 --> 00:25:59,919
anymore to myself because i've seen so

697
00:26:04,230 --> 00:26:01,200
much

698
00:26:05,990 --> 00:26:04,240
and so i think i yes i might get some

699
00:26:07,110 --> 00:26:06,000
equipment because i am starting this

700
00:26:09,110 --> 00:26:07,120
channel where i'm going to try and

701
00:26:10,950 --> 00:26:09,120
hopefully go and investigate places for

702
00:26:13,830 --> 00:26:10,960
people to see

703
00:26:15,909 --> 00:26:13,840
but for me i don't ever really use the

704
00:26:17,990 --> 00:26:15,919
technology aspect

705
00:26:19,669 --> 00:26:18,000
i'm very old school i'm just you know

706
00:26:22,870 --> 00:26:19,679
like camera

707
00:26:25,029 --> 00:26:22,880
voice recorder me

708
00:26:25,680 --> 00:26:25,039
and i and that's usually done the trick

709
00:26:26,950 --> 00:26:25,690
yeah um

710
00:26:28,549 --> 00:26:26,960
[Music]

711
00:26:30,149 --> 00:26:28,559
and that's just kind of how i've always

712
00:26:32,149 --> 00:26:30,159
been but i

713
00:26:33,830 --> 00:26:32,159
i can definitely see the need for it and

714
00:26:36,230 --> 00:26:33,840
i think it's really neat

715
00:26:37,269 --> 00:26:36,240
um but it's like you know i couldn't

716
00:26:38,950 --> 00:26:37,279
even use

717
00:26:41,350 --> 00:26:38,960
figure out how to hook my mic up to do

718
00:26:43,909 --> 00:26:41,360
the skype phone call today so

719
00:26:45,110 --> 00:26:43,919
i'm not the i'm not the most tech savvy

720
00:26:46,549 --> 00:26:45,120
person

721
00:26:48,870 --> 00:26:46,559
well that might be a good thing because

722
00:26:49,750 --> 00:26:48,880
i'm telling you i've kind of gone the

723
00:26:52,710 --> 00:26:49,760
same way

724
00:26:53,510 --> 00:26:52,720
and um where i used to just you know

725
00:26:57,269 --> 00:26:53,520
blanket

726
00:26:58,549 --> 00:26:57,279
things in cameras shooting every which

727
00:27:01,029 --> 00:26:58,559
direction

728
00:27:02,070 --> 00:27:01,039
i and recorders and stuff i've noticed

729
00:27:03,909 --> 00:27:02,080
that yeah

730
00:27:05,269 --> 00:27:03,919
i agree with you that there seems to be

731
00:27:08,470 --> 00:27:05,279
more activity

732
00:27:10,870 --> 00:27:08,480
the more basic and more human the

733
00:27:12,390 --> 00:27:10,880
engagement with the phenomenon tends to

734
00:27:15,269 --> 00:27:12,400
be

735
00:27:17,590 --> 00:27:15,279
yeah and that's that's all i'm after

736
00:27:18,549 --> 00:27:17,600
myself and my life is the human aspect

737
00:27:21,510 --> 00:27:18,559
of it

738
00:27:22,950 --> 00:27:21,520
i i love for for me doing just the

739
00:27:26,310 --> 00:27:22,960
investigation

740
00:27:28,310 --> 00:27:26,320
with the people meeting the people

741
00:27:29,830 --> 00:27:28,320
hearing the stories of the places you're

742
00:27:33,190 --> 00:27:29,840
all that you are

743
00:27:33,990 --> 00:27:33,200
um the history just that human

744
00:27:36,310 --> 00:27:34,000
connection part

745
00:27:38,230 --> 00:27:36,320
that's that's the reason i want to start

746
00:27:41,029 --> 00:27:38,240
doing it some more again

747
00:27:42,950 --> 00:27:41,039
um especially with being without any

748
00:27:44,230 --> 00:27:42,960
real human connection right for the past

749
00:27:46,789 --> 00:27:44,240
year or so

750
00:27:48,549 --> 00:27:46,799
right um i'm just interested in getting

751
00:27:52,710 --> 00:27:48,559
back out and going to these places

752
00:27:55,430 --> 00:27:52,720
hearing the stories and then just seeing

753
00:27:58,070 --> 00:27:55,440
yeah just seeing seeing the the human

754
00:28:01,669 --> 00:27:58,080
aspect of it because

755
00:28:03,990 --> 00:28:01,679
to me that's the best part it really is

756
00:28:05,830 --> 00:28:04,000
and you know a lot of the consciousness

757
00:28:08,310 --> 00:28:05,840
studies and

758
00:28:09,750 --> 00:28:08,320
focus on the observer you know in the

759
00:28:13,269 --> 00:28:09,760
paranormal or with these

760
00:28:16,230 --> 00:28:13,279
uaps or ufos they're finding that

761
00:28:16,789 --> 00:28:16,240
at least it seems as if the observer is

762
00:28:19,029 --> 00:28:16,799
a key

763
00:28:19,909 --> 00:28:19,039
part so like the human aspect like

764
00:28:23,269 --> 00:28:19,919
you're talking about

765
00:28:24,870 --> 00:28:23,279
is actually probably the key to opening

766
00:28:28,070 --> 00:28:24,880
a lot of these

767
00:28:30,870 --> 00:28:28,080
interesting areas to

768
00:28:32,549 --> 00:28:30,880
uh observation to these displays that

769
00:28:35,029 --> 00:28:32,559
seem to be coming out

770
00:28:37,029 --> 00:28:35,039
and i yeah there's a very where the

771
00:28:39,350 --> 00:28:37,039
rubber meets the road kind of human

772
00:28:41,029 --> 00:28:39,360
aspect of engaging with the phenomenon

773
00:28:43,590 --> 00:28:41,039
and if you're tinkering and

774
00:28:44,230 --> 00:28:43,600
messing with gadgets all the time and

775
00:28:46,789 --> 00:28:44,240
you've got

776
00:28:48,310 --> 00:28:46,799
you know big screens and i've seen all

777
00:28:50,870 --> 00:28:48,320
kinds of stuff i've seen people show up

778
00:28:53,510 --> 00:28:50,880
with so much stuff and it's just like

779
00:28:53,909 --> 00:28:53,520
when it's that much that distracting you

780
00:28:57,110 --> 00:28:53,919
might

781
00:28:57,430 --> 00:28:57,120
actually be hindering the display i

782
00:29:00,870 --> 00:28:57,440
think

783
00:29:02,549 --> 00:29:00,880
absolutely yeah and i there is a time

784
00:29:04,630 --> 00:29:02,559
and a place for that i understand these

785
00:29:06,630 --> 00:29:04,640
these big tv shows they need to do that

786
00:29:07,350 --> 00:29:06,640
because you know they're coming in for a

787
00:29:10,230 --> 00:29:07,360
day or two

788
00:29:12,310 --> 00:29:10,240
or two and so they want to cover as much

789
00:29:15,510 --> 00:29:12,320
ground as they can of course

790
00:29:17,510 --> 00:29:15,520
but over the years of myself

791
00:29:19,510 --> 00:29:17,520
when i've done it i've tried to get to

792
00:29:21,350 --> 00:29:19,520
know the location the owners

793
00:29:24,230 --> 00:29:21,360
and be able to go back over and over and

794
00:29:27,430 --> 00:29:24,240
build a relationship with the space

795
00:29:30,630 --> 00:29:27,440
and and that's what i really love doing

796
00:29:32,870 --> 00:29:30,640
but i mean i can see how how you'd want

797
00:29:34,230 --> 00:29:32,880
to have

798
00:29:36,389 --> 00:29:34,240
all your bases covered when you have a

799
00:29:39,430 --> 00:29:36,399
short amount of time with the space

800
00:29:41,110 --> 00:29:39,440
but um you know like i said i like to to

801
00:29:43,750 --> 00:29:41,120
go back

802
00:29:46,070 --> 00:29:43,760
to previous spots and just get to know

803
00:29:48,870 --> 00:29:46,080
it because it's like

804
00:29:50,549 --> 00:29:48,880
these places these these buildings

805
00:29:53,510 --> 00:29:50,559
they're they're like a living

806
00:29:53,990 --> 00:29:53,520
thing as well it's um it's hard to

807
00:29:56,310 --> 00:29:54,000
explain

808
00:29:57,750 --> 00:29:56,320
but um i always yeah if i feel a

809
00:29:59,110 --> 00:29:57,760
connection with the place i love just

810
00:30:01,990 --> 00:29:59,120
going back to it and

811
00:30:02,789 --> 00:30:02,000
and really just keeping it to the bare

812
00:30:05,830 --> 00:30:02,799
minimum

813
00:30:07,430 --> 00:30:05,840
like a camera you know video camera just

814
00:30:10,070 --> 00:30:07,440
myself

815
00:30:10,789 --> 00:30:10,080
or you know a few people i don't need to

816
00:30:14,389 --> 00:30:10,799
have

817
00:30:16,630 --> 00:30:14,399
crazy enough

818
00:30:18,710 --> 00:30:16,640
just myself you know i don't need to

819
00:30:21,590 --> 00:30:18,720
bring any more

820
00:30:21,990 --> 00:30:21,600
any more gadgets with me and i literally

821
00:30:23,590 --> 00:30:22,000
yeah

822
00:30:25,669 --> 00:30:23,600
and i only mentioned that i did have

823
00:30:27,510 --> 00:30:25,679
somebody show up once to an area

824
00:30:29,350 --> 00:30:27,520
and they showed up with like a big

825
00:30:30,950 --> 00:30:29,360
screen on their back

826
00:30:32,549 --> 00:30:30,960
and they were running all their

827
00:30:34,470 --> 00:30:32,559
electronics and i mean they were

828
00:30:36,470 --> 00:30:34,480
watching this big screen all night and

829
00:30:39,350 --> 00:30:36,480
it's like that's blinding to what that's

830
00:30:40,230 --> 00:30:39,360
what actually is taking place but yeah

831
00:30:42,389 --> 00:30:40,240
there's uh

832
00:30:44,070 --> 00:30:42,399
i agree with you if if you got to have

833
00:30:46,230 --> 00:30:44,080
your bases covered in these areas and i

834
00:30:49,350 --> 00:30:46,240
get the technological aspect too

835
00:30:49,990 --> 00:30:49,360
i mean i do see the need for that oh and

836
00:30:51,590 --> 00:30:50,000
technology

837
00:30:54,470 --> 00:30:51,600
is such an awesome thing like don't get

838
00:30:57,990 --> 00:30:54,480
me wrong i think it's absolutely amazing

839
00:31:01,909 --> 00:30:58,000
but i'm so i'm just such an old school

840
00:31:05,350 --> 00:31:01,919
kind of person with that because to me

841
00:31:06,950 --> 00:31:05,360
you know no matter what like with my

842
00:31:08,630 --> 00:31:06,960
youtube channel and everything

843
00:31:10,710 --> 00:31:08,640
it you know if you're watching that to

844
00:31:12,470 --> 00:31:10,720
to to see ghosts

845
00:31:14,149 --> 00:31:12,480
it's not going to be the best channel

846
00:31:15,990 --> 00:31:14,159
for you but if you want to hear a really

847
00:31:19,509 --> 00:31:16,000
awesome story

848
00:31:20,950 --> 00:31:19,519
and learn some history about the place

849
00:31:23,590 --> 00:31:20,960
i mean that's the kind of thing i'm

850
00:31:25,029 --> 00:31:23,600
going to and then just having fun with

851
00:31:27,750 --> 00:31:25,039
with all of it

852
00:31:29,669 --> 00:31:27,760
taking myself lightly because people

853
00:31:31,350 --> 00:31:29,679
take themselves so seriously in this

854
00:31:33,430 --> 00:31:31,360
field i mean don't you think

855
00:31:34,950 --> 00:31:33,440
and and it's okay to do it to a point

856
00:31:37,350 --> 00:31:34,960
but sure

857
00:31:39,110 --> 00:31:37,360
after a while it just gets a little it

858
00:31:42,149 --> 00:31:39,120
gets a little tiring for me

859
00:31:44,470 --> 00:31:42,159
oh yeah i like being able to just

860
00:31:46,389 --> 00:31:44,480
just be you know be like how i would

861
00:31:49,029 --> 00:31:46,399
with anyone

862
00:31:50,710 --> 00:31:49,039
when i'm visiting a haunted spot just

863
00:31:53,909 --> 00:31:50,720
because me personally

864
00:31:54,549 --> 00:31:53,919
you know i love the ufo aspect and the

865
00:31:57,590 --> 00:31:54,559
crypto

866
00:31:59,509 --> 00:31:57,600
but hauntings and things like that

867
00:32:04,310 --> 00:31:59,519
that's kind of my thing

868
00:32:09,190 --> 00:32:04,320
that's where i have the most experience

869
00:32:12,470 --> 00:32:09,200
with and the most connection so

870
00:32:13,350 --> 00:32:12,480
um it's just different it's different

871
00:32:15,669 --> 00:32:13,360
for everyone

872
00:32:17,750 --> 00:32:15,679
and that's what's so cool about about

873
00:32:20,789 --> 00:32:17,760
all of this is that you can take

874
00:32:21,909 --> 00:32:20,799
from it what you need yeah the

875
00:32:25,590 --> 00:32:21,919
paranormal is such

876
00:32:28,870 --> 00:32:25,600
a wide field like it encompasses such

877
00:32:30,310 --> 00:32:28,880
a huge spectrum and i wanted to ask you

878
00:32:31,509 --> 00:32:30,320
about some of your ghost hunts what have

879
00:32:32,630 --> 00:32:31,519
been the best

880
00:32:35,029 --> 00:32:32,640
where have you gone where do you

881
00:32:38,149 --> 00:32:35,039
recommend and you went to the whitmore

882
00:32:42,230 --> 00:32:38,159
mansion am i right that's pretty cool

883
00:32:45,590 --> 00:32:42,240
yeah the whitmore in um

884
00:32:50,070 --> 00:32:47,590
that yeah i met like her name's

885
00:32:52,549 --> 00:32:50,080
jacqueline

886
00:32:54,310 --> 00:32:52,559
we went there and it was the beetle have

887
00:32:57,430 --> 00:32:54,320
you been there

888
00:32:59,830 --> 00:32:57,440
no i i have only seen pictures i want to

889
00:33:02,230 --> 00:32:59,840
go really bad

890
00:33:04,470 --> 00:33:02,240
she had so many stories if you go if

891
00:33:05,990 --> 00:33:04,480
anyone can get a chance to go out there

892
00:33:08,870 --> 00:33:06,000
um i believe her name is jackie

893
00:33:10,070 --> 00:33:08,880
jacqueline she runs an escape room from

894
00:33:12,549 --> 00:33:10,080
the basement

895
00:33:13,909 --> 00:33:12,559
which is really cool and then she has

896
00:33:17,190 --> 00:33:13,919
this beautiful

897
00:33:19,430 --> 00:33:17,200
you know victorian mansion tons of

898
00:33:22,870 --> 00:33:19,440
stories she takes you on a candlelit

899
00:33:25,430 --> 00:33:22,880
tour of the house and just lets you

900
00:33:25,990 --> 00:33:25,440
let you see everything but it was oh

901
00:33:28,389 --> 00:33:26,000
gosh

902
00:33:30,070 --> 00:33:28,399
i could go there every day i just was

903
00:33:31,990 --> 00:33:30,080
drawn to it immediately

904
00:33:34,470 --> 00:33:32,000
and i and i talked to her since and i'm

905
00:33:37,190 --> 00:33:34,480
hoping to go pretty soon again so

906
00:33:37,990 --> 00:33:37,200
it's just a lovely lovely spot that's

907
00:33:41,590 --> 00:33:38,000
super close by

908
00:33:43,430 --> 00:33:41,600
to me yeah it looks amazing and

909
00:33:45,590 --> 00:33:43,440
you've gone to a bunch of other places

910
00:33:47,830 --> 00:33:45,600
too what are some of your favorite

911
00:33:49,750 --> 00:33:47,840
uh what what have been some of your most

912
00:33:52,149 --> 00:33:49,760
extreme experiences and where have you

913
00:33:54,230 --> 00:33:52,159
had them

914
00:33:56,710 --> 00:33:54,240
well definitely over near skin marker

915
00:33:59,750 --> 00:33:56,720
ranches in my top of course

916
00:34:01,830 --> 00:33:59,760
but um my favorite will always be the

917
00:34:04,470 --> 00:34:01,840
queen mary you know

918
00:34:06,070 --> 00:34:04,480
this the poor ship have you heard the

919
00:34:07,669 --> 00:34:06,080
news about this ship

920
00:34:10,389 --> 00:34:07,679
no tell me more probably going to

921
00:34:13,030 --> 00:34:10,399
capsize and they've run out of money to

922
00:34:15,669 --> 00:34:13,040
repair it and it's just sitting there

923
00:34:16,230 --> 00:34:15,679
just sinking in the bay there in long

924
00:34:18,149 --> 00:34:16,240
beach

925
00:34:19,510 --> 00:34:18,159
i'm just so sad if anything like that

926
00:34:21,990 --> 00:34:19,520
happened i don't know

927
00:34:23,510 --> 00:34:22,000
it's such a neat place and i mean you've

928
00:34:26,710 --> 00:34:23,520
been right

929
00:34:29,669 --> 00:34:26,720
never i've never ever yeah

930
00:34:31,109 --> 00:34:29,679
oh my gosh i need to go obviously now

931
00:34:33,669 --> 00:34:31,119
ryan because i think

932
00:34:35,109 --> 00:34:33,679
i think it's like the poor thing's

933
00:34:36,550 --> 00:34:35,119
history

934
00:34:38,470 --> 00:34:36,560
but they just they're they're going

935
00:34:40,629 --> 00:34:38,480
through this legal battle with

936
00:34:42,149 --> 00:34:40,639
the city and it's just too much money to

937
00:34:43,990 --> 00:34:42,159
even have it there so they're thinking

938
00:34:46,230 --> 00:34:44,000
of just letting it rot

939
00:34:47,270 --> 00:34:46,240
and it would just be terrible because

940
00:34:51,430 --> 00:34:47,280
i've had

941
00:34:53,510 --> 00:34:51,440
you know my first like documented

942
00:34:54,710 --> 00:34:53,520
full body apparition was was there on

943
00:34:59,589 --> 00:34:54,720
that ship

944
00:35:02,150 --> 00:34:59,599
the first time i ever had something

945
00:35:04,069 --> 00:35:02,160
like attach itself and come back with me

946
00:35:07,109 --> 00:35:04,079
for months at a time

947
00:35:10,230 --> 00:35:07,119
was because of the queen mary

948
00:35:13,430 --> 00:35:10,240
i've gotten my best evps and

949
00:35:15,670 --> 00:35:13,440
evidence there and i

950
00:35:17,510 --> 00:35:15,680
it's one of those other spots where i

951
00:35:19,510 --> 00:35:17,520
immediately felt like

952
00:35:21,030 --> 00:35:19,520
i i've been there before in a different

953
00:35:22,630 --> 00:35:21,040
life or something i don't know what you

954
00:35:25,510 --> 00:35:22,640
believe but

955
00:35:27,670 --> 00:35:25,520
it was as if i'd lived a life on this

956
00:35:29,990 --> 00:35:27,680
ship before i ever even set foot on it

957
00:35:32,310 --> 00:35:30,000
it's like i knew where to go i knew

958
00:35:34,710 --> 00:35:32,320
where the rooms were

959
00:35:35,910 --> 00:35:34,720
i knew how to get around and i'd never

960
00:35:38,310 --> 00:35:35,920
been

961
00:35:39,349 --> 00:35:38,320
or even researched it before i had

962
00:35:42,630 --> 00:35:39,359
visited

963
00:35:43,990 --> 00:35:42,640
and i think i've been over a hundred

964
00:35:47,910 --> 00:35:44,000
times since

965
00:35:50,150 --> 00:35:47,920
but um it's just such a

966
00:35:51,430 --> 00:35:50,160
such a neat place of you know world war

967
00:35:54,310 --> 00:35:51,440
ii history

968
00:35:56,710 --> 00:35:54,320
so many cool stories so many ghosts so

969
00:35:59,750 --> 00:35:56,720
haunted ryan it's the most haunted place

970
00:36:00,630 --> 00:35:59,760
i'm telling you man i got an invitation

971
00:36:03,910 --> 00:36:00,640
to go out there

972
00:36:06,069 --> 00:36:03,920
pre-covered and i blew it and

973
00:36:07,990 --> 00:36:06,079
now i'm like super bummed that this has

974
00:36:10,829 --> 00:36:08,000
taken place

975
00:36:12,790 --> 00:36:10,839
i know i just talked to if you remember

976
00:36:16,390 --> 00:36:12,800
sarah girlfriend of ours

977
00:36:17,829 --> 00:36:16,400
of course she she got to go one last

978
00:36:20,630 --> 00:36:17,839
time you know before they

979
00:36:21,910 --> 00:36:20,640
shut it down but but even how i met her

980
00:36:23,510 --> 00:36:21,920
was through the queen mary it was

981
00:36:26,150 --> 00:36:23,520
because of a ghost

982
00:36:26,540 --> 00:36:26,160
that that was haunting me from that ship

983
00:36:28,069 --> 00:36:26,550
um

984
00:36:30,470 --> 00:36:28,079
[Music]

985
00:36:31,829 --> 00:36:30,480
when i had met her at a conference with

986
00:36:34,150 --> 00:36:31,839
the ghost hunters

987
00:36:36,230 --> 00:36:34,160
the tv show and we were i was working

988
00:36:41,349 --> 00:36:36,240
with a group that worked with them

989
00:36:44,390 --> 00:36:41,359
and i met her on back in 2004

990
00:36:47,190 --> 00:36:44,400
and we had such a great time and uh

991
00:36:48,230 --> 00:36:47,200
i left after that week and i didn't get

992
00:36:49,670 --> 00:36:48,240
her number

993
00:36:51,510 --> 00:36:49,680
and then that's when we had all those

994
00:36:52,710 --> 00:36:51,520
crazy experiences with the full body

995
00:36:56,150 --> 00:36:52,720
apparitions

996
00:36:58,069 --> 00:36:56,160
um and the evps and some of the best

997
00:37:01,430 --> 00:36:58,079
evidence ever

998
00:37:02,950 --> 00:37:01,440
and then i i went back to utah and i was

999
00:37:06,069 --> 00:37:02,960
getting haunted by

1000
00:37:08,230 --> 00:37:06,079
this man in in a tuxedo that would just

1001
00:37:09,750 --> 00:37:08,240
stand by my bed at night

1002
00:37:11,030 --> 00:37:09,760
and i knew that it was like the shining

1003
00:37:11,910 --> 00:37:11,040
you know the guy in the shining with his

1004
00:37:14,950 --> 00:37:11,920
little glass

1005
00:37:15,990 --> 00:37:14,960
yeah and um i just knew he was from the

1006
00:37:18,470 --> 00:37:16,000
ship and so

1007
00:37:19,990 --> 00:37:18,480
for like months i i was telling my

1008
00:37:22,390 --> 00:37:20,000
boyfriend at the time like i need to go

1009
00:37:24,790 --> 00:37:22,400
back to the ship for some reason

1010
00:37:26,310 --> 00:37:24,800
um and i had this really strong

1011
00:37:28,150 --> 00:37:26,320
connection with sarah

1012
00:37:30,150 --> 00:37:28,160
and i told him about her and how i wish

1013
00:37:34,310 --> 00:37:30,160
i had and this was before facebook

1014
00:37:36,950 --> 00:37:34,320
you know and uh i had no way to find her

1015
00:37:38,950 --> 00:37:36,960
i didn't remember her last name but i

1016
00:37:40,069 --> 00:37:38,960
remember we got back on that ship month

1017
00:37:43,190 --> 00:37:40,079
after

1018
00:37:44,230 --> 00:37:43,200
drove to california i'm talking about

1019
00:37:47,109 --> 00:37:44,240
her

1020
00:37:48,710 --> 00:37:47,119
to my boyfriend in our cabin and i open

1021
00:37:52,390 --> 00:37:48,720
the door and walk out

1022
00:37:55,829 --> 00:37:52,400
and she's standing there in the hallway

1023
00:37:57,430 --> 00:37:55,839
and she was prompted to just come on

1024
00:38:00,069 --> 00:37:57,440
that exact day

1025
00:38:00,630 --> 00:38:00,079
after months and had been in the same

1026
00:38:01,990 --> 00:38:00,640
boat

1027
00:38:04,390 --> 00:38:02,000
where she'd been having weird things

1028
00:38:07,190 --> 00:38:04,400
happen and she just

1029
00:38:08,710 --> 00:38:07,200
also wanted to somehow find a way to

1030
00:38:12,230 --> 00:38:08,720
connect with me

1031
00:38:15,349 --> 00:38:12,240
and i just thought wow the ship did this

1032
00:38:19,829 --> 00:38:15,359
like it's crazy whoa that's crazy

1033
00:38:23,990 --> 00:38:19,839
we've had a friendship for decades

1034
00:38:25,750 --> 00:38:24,000
um so

1035
00:38:28,150 --> 00:38:25,760
yeah that place is going to always be a

1036
00:38:30,310 --> 00:38:28,160
special spot for me

1037
00:38:31,430 --> 00:38:30,320
um other than that i mean utah salt lake

1038
00:38:34,069 --> 00:38:31,440
city

1039
00:38:35,829 --> 00:38:34,079
is any building you can throw a rock at

1040
00:38:41,829 --> 00:38:35,839
has a crazy story

1041
00:38:48,150 --> 00:38:44,829
uh sorry i'm drawing a blank here one

1042
00:38:51,190 --> 00:38:50,310
salt lake has a lot of them you're right

1043
00:38:54,310 --> 00:38:51,200
there's just yeah

1044
00:38:56,470 --> 00:38:54,320
every corner definitely the depot the

1045
00:38:59,430 --> 00:38:56,480
depot is a nightclub in salt lake

1046
00:39:00,150 --> 00:38:59,440
yep and uh we we did an investigation

1047
00:39:01,990 --> 00:39:00,160
there with

1048
00:39:04,470 --> 00:39:02,000
with the haunted bathroom remember the

1049
00:39:06,470 --> 00:39:04,480
hunt oh my gosh

1050
00:39:08,310 --> 00:39:06,480
what was the haunted women's restroom i

1051
00:39:11,270 --> 00:39:08,320
think it was the women's yes

1052
00:39:12,470 --> 00:39:11,280
and do you want to tell the story about

1053
00:39:15,349 --> 00:39:12,480
the toilets

1054
00:39:16,710 --> 00:39:15,359
i i you know what i i'm gonna let you

1055
00:39:20,069 --> 00:39:16,720
take it but it's crazy

1056
00:39:22,069 --> 00:39:20,079
it's crazy the toilets would flush yeah

1057
00:39:24,150 --> 00:39:22,079
the toilets would flush like on command

1058
00:39:27,910 --> 00:39:24,160
i remember the sinks

1059
00:39:30,790 --> 00:39:27,920
would turn on the the crazy thing this

1060
00:39:32,950 --> 00:39:30,800
this nightclub is connected to an actual

1061
00:39:33,829 --> 00:39:32,960
train station which is the the rio

1062
00:39:38,150 --> 00:39:33,839
grande

1063
00:39:41,030 --> 00:39:38,160
there in salt lake and so

1064
00:39:42,230 --> 00:39:41,040
there's a long hallway upstairs in this

1065
00:39:44,870 --> 00:39:42,240
part of the building

1066
00:39:46,230 --> 00:39:44,880
where there's bars and restrooms and you

1067
00:39:48,230 --> 00:39:46,240
know women were reporting getting

1068
00:39:49,510 --> 00:39:48,240
attacked in the skulls by this black

1069
00:39:51,109 --> 00:39:49,520
shadow figure

1070
00:39:52,710 --> 00:39:51,119
and someone in our group actually got a

1071
00:39:55,109 --> 00:39:52,720
photo and it's

1072
00:39:58,150 --> 00:39:55,119
an exact outline of a man but it's

1073
00:40:00,240 --> 00:39:58,160
completely black and it's really

1074
00:40:01,589 --> 00:40:00,250
it's really unnerving looking

1075
00:40:03,829 --> 00:40:01,599
[Music]

1076
00:40:05,430 --> 00:40:03,839
especially that he's attacking you know

1077
00:40:06,870 --> 00:40:05,440
there's just there were women

1078
00:40:09,510 --> 00:40:06,880
that'd be running out into the night

1079
00:40:12,390 --> 00:40:09,520
because they were getting attacked by

1080
00:40:14,790 --> 00:40:12,400
nothing and so we would investigate

1081
00:40:16,710 --> 00:40:14,800
there a few times but i remember

1082
00:40:18,630 --> 00:40:16,720
one night i was standing in the hall

1083
00:40:21,510 --> 00:40:18,640
outside of the restroom

1084
00:40:22,230 --> 00:40:21,520
and my friend jim was in in the

1085
00:40:25,589 --> 00:40:22,240
restrooms

1086
00:40:28,710 --> 00:40:25,599
and behind me was the long wall

1087
00:40:29,990 --> 00:40:28,720
uh where the other side of the door for

1088
00:40:32,150 --> 00:40:30,000
the bathrooms and

1089
00:40:33,910 --> 00:40:32,160
on the other side of that wall is the

1090
00:40:35,990 --> 00:40:33,920
the grand

1091
00:40:37,829 --> 00:40:36,000
uh train station area so it's probably

1092
00:40:40,790 --> 00:40:37,839
50 feet down

1093
00:40:42,309 --> 00:40:40,800
below me and a man just walks right

1094
00:40:46,150 --> 00:40:42,319
through the wall

1095
00:40:47,990 --> 00:40:46,160
and whoa like clear as you or me

1096
00:40:49,829 --> 00:40:48,000
and just walked right through the wall

1097
00:40:50,630 --> 00:40:49,839
so he had to have been floating 50 feet

1098
00:40:52,470 --> 00:40:50,640
above the

1099
00:40:54,230 --> 00:40:52,480
the air and then walked right through

1100
00:40:54,710 --> 00:40:54,240
the wall and then walked right into the

1101
00:40:57,670 --> 00:40:54,720
wall

1102
00:40:59,430 --> 00:40:57,680
where jim was in the restroom and i i

1103
00:41:01,430 --> 00:40:59,440
like dropped to the ground

1104
00:41:03,109 --> 00:41:01,440
because i just wasn't expecting it like

1105
00:41:07,349 --> 00:41:03,119
a man to pop out of the wall

1106
00:41:09,030 --> 00:41:07,359
like it was crazy and it was it was so

1107
00:41:10,550 --> 00:41:09,040
it was you would never have thought it

1108
00:41:13,510 --> 00:41:10,560
was a ghost it's so

1109
00:41:13,829 --> 00:41:13,520
but he went through the wall and so um

1110
00:41:17,910 --> 00:41:13,839
that

1111
00:41:20,230 --> 00:41:17,920
like being startled

1112
00:41:22,150 --> 00:41:20,240
probably in the wrong business right

1113
00:41:24,790 --> 00:41:22,160
yeah

1114
00:41:26,150 --> 00:41:24,800
but but that train station's crazy i

1115
00:41:29,990 --> 00:41:26,160
mean

1116
00:41:32,230 --> 00:41:30,000
i went to the uh the great solitaire the

1117
00:41:33,109 --> 00:41:32,240
the other day and spent the evening

1118
00:41:35,990 --> 00:41:33,119
there

1119
00:41:36,630 --> 00:41:36,000
and that place has a crazy history how

1120
00:41:39,829 --> 00:41:36,640
cool

1121
00:41:42,309 --> 00:41:39,839
um yeah and i again

1122
00:41:45,109 --> 00:41:42,319
in the restrooms at the salt air i've

1123
00:41:47,510 --> 00:41:45,119
i've sat and watched

1124
00:41:48,150 --> 00:41:47,520
the faucets in the men's room turn

1125
00:41:52,550 --> 00:41:48,160
themselves

1126
00:41:54,550 --> 00:41:52,560
on and their old school faucets

1127
00:41:56,150 --> 00:41:54,560
and just do them in a row three three

1128
00:41:59,750 --> 00:41:56,160
sinks in a row

1129
00:42:02,390 --> 00:41:59,760
while i'm just standing there and

1130
00:42:03,670 --> 00:42:02,400
there's a lot of a lot of sad stories

1131
00:42:07,190 --> 00:42:03,680
around that building

1132
00:42:09,589 --> 00:42:07,200
a lot of deaths and murders

1133
00:42:12,150 --> 00:42:09,599
it's got a pretty dark history but i

1134
00:42:14,230 --> 00:42:12,160
know there's a few

1135
00:42:17,190 --> 00:42:14,240
ghost hunting groups that are going to

1136
00:42:19,589 --> 00:42:17,200
be putting out shows on that soon so

1137
00:42:20,390 --> 00:42:19,599
that'll be interesting to see that will

1138
00:42:22,150 --> 00:42:20,400
be

1139
00:42:23,829 --> 00:42:22,160
now how do how many times i don't want

1140
00:42:25,430 --> 00:42:23,839
to mess this up you would know better

1141
00:42:28,790 --> 00:42:25,440
than i how many times does that place

1142
00:42:32,870 --> 00:42:31,750
probably at least twice or three times i

1143
00:42:36,069 --> 00:42:32,880
know that it

1144
00:42:39,030 --> 00:42:36,079
so i know it burnt down and then uh

1145
00:42:40,230 --> 00:42:39,040
they kind of rebuilt it in the 80s and

1146
00:42:42,150 --> 00:42:40,240
it was nowhere near

1147
00:42:43,990 --> 00:42:42,160
its former glory i mean it was the coney

1148
00:42:46,950 --> 00:42:44,000
island of the west it was

1149
00:42:47,910 --> 00:42:46,960
amazing in the in the 1800s when it was

1150
00:42:50,550 --> 00:42:47,920
built

1151
00:42:51,270 --> 00:42:50,560
but then it burned down in the the 20s i

1152
00:42:55,190 --> 00:42:51,280
think

1153
00:42:57,750 --> 00:42:55,200
and um then it just kind of sat

1154
00:42:59,750 --> 00:42:57,760
vacant for years and then they rebuilt

1155
00:43:02,390 --> 00:42:59,760
it in in like 82

1156
00:43:03,750 --> 00:43:02,400
and then in 80 was it 84 the great flood

1157
00:43:07,190 --> 00:43:03,760
of salt lake

1158
00:43:09,270 --> 00:43:07,200
um 84 i believe or something

1159
00:43:12,309 --> 00:43:09,280
came and just wiped out the building

1160
00:43:16,550 --> 00:43:12,319
again and flooded it so the poor thing

1161
00:43:19,109 --> 00:43:16,560
it's just had a rough time you know so

1162
00:43:20,150 --> 00:43:19,119
but it's still standing it's now used

1163
00:43:23,829 --> 00:43:20,160
for raves

1164
00:43:26,790 --> 00:43:23,839
uh primarily and big you know night

1165
00:43:27,750 --> 00:43:26,800
nightclub parties yeah i think things i

1166
00:43:29,190 --> 00:43:27,760
haven't done in years

1167
00:43:30,870 --> 00:43:29,200
i know i think the last time i went

1168
00:43:32,790 --> 00:43:30,880
there had to be a decade ago

1169
00:43:34,150 --> 00:43:32,800
and it was for a concert so that that

1170
00:43:37,349 --> 00:43:34,160
shows how much i know

1171
00:43:39,670 --> 00:43:37,359
yeah yeah that's that's about all it's

1172
00:43:41,589 --> 00:43:39,680
it's used for now but it's a that's a

1173
00:43:45,750 --> 00:43:41,599
real eerie place

1174
00:43:47,270 --> 00:43:45,760
um and same with ogden

1175
00:43:50,470 --> 00:43:47,280
like don't even get me started with the

1176
00:43:52,630 --> 00:43:50,480
city of ogden like ogden what's going on

1177
00:43:54,630 --> 00:43:52,640
yeah have you been to the have you been

1178
00:43:55,109 --> 00:43:54,640
to the ben lamond or any of the haunted

1179
00:43:58,950 --> 00:43:55,119
buildings

1180
00:44:00,470 --> 00:43:58,960
i have yeah um i don't recall anything

1181
00:44:02,230 --> 00:44:00,480
happening there at the hotel

1182
00:44:03,750 --> 00:44:02,240
but the ogden exchange building i just

1183
00:44:06,829 --> 00:44:03,760
did a video on it

1184
00:44:09,270 --> 00:44:06,839
like two days ago on my channel uh but

1185
00:44:11,270 --> 00:44:09,280
that's the ogden exchange building was a

1186
00:44:14,710 --> 00:44:11,280
livestock exchange building

1187
00:44:18,230 --> 00:44:14,720
um that was built in like 1931

1188
00:44:19,589 --> 00:44:18,240
and in that in its history it was used

1189
00:44:23,510 --> 00:44:19,599
as a bank

1190
00:44:26,630 --> 00:44:23,520
um as even weber county mental health

1191
00:44:30,309 --> 00:44:26,640
so it was like a methadone clinic and

1192
00:44:31,510 --> 00:44:30,319
there's just tons of colorful stories of

1193
00:44:36,630 --> 00:44:31,520
murders

1194
00:44:39,190 --> 00:44:36,640
suicides um and then of course

1195
00:44:40,950 --> 00:44:39,200
there's an evp that was caught there on

1196
00:44:42,630 --> 00:44:40,960
a night that i visited

1197
00:44:44,790 --> 00:44:42,640
where you can hear someone in a tub

1198
00:44:46,470 --> 00:44:44,800
drowning and asking for help

1199
00:44:48,390 --> 00:44:46,480
and there's no water in that building

1200
00:44:50,230 --> 00:44:48,400
there hadn't been for years

1201
00:44:52,230 --> 00:44:50,240
and it's been like on the art bell show

1202
00:44:55,430 --> 00:44:52,240
if you were to google it

1203
00:44:56,790 --> 00:44:55,440
or go to my my video i put a link it's

1204
00:45:00,230 --> 00:44:56,800
like the clearest

1205
00:45:03,030 --> 00:45:00,240
and the evp goes on for like

1206
00:45:05,109 --> 00:45:03,040
i want to say five to seven minutes this

1207
00:45:07,430 --> 00:45:05,119
sounds horrifying

1208
00:45:09,109 --> 00:45:07,440
it is and i remember the night it was

1209
00:45:10,630 --> 00:45:09,119
taken because

1210
00:45:11,990 --> 00:45:10,640
we had gone in different groups to

1211
00:45:14,150 --> 00:45:12,000
different parts of the building have you

1212
00:45:17,990 --> 00:45:14,160
been there or

1213
00:45:19,109 --> 00:45:18,000
yes yes you have okay oh i remember and

1214
00:45:21,589 --> 00:45:19,119
your mom's come

1215
00:45:23,510 --> 00:45:21,599
um it's just it's been such a long time

1216
00:45:29,670 --> 00:45:23,520
and i have a bad memory nowadays

1217
00:45:33,430 --> 00:45:31,109
yeah i've had some of the craziest

1218
00:45:35,109 --> 00:45:33,440
experiences down in that basement where

1219
00:45:36,790 --> 00:45:35,119
they say there was a morgue

1220
00:45:39,829 --> 00:45:36,800
they also say there are tunnels that

1221
00:45:42,710 --> 00:45:39,839
connect that building to the high school

1222
00:45:43,990 --> 00:45:42,720
and to the ben lomond and other

1223
00:45:45,430 --> 00:45:44,000
buildings because they were built by the

1224
00:45:47,589 --> 00:45:45,440
same architect

1225
00:45:49,270 --> 00:45:47,599
and they were used like during

1226
00:45:50,790 --> 00:45:49,280
prohibition and things like that

1227
00:45:52,150 --> 00:45:50,800
but i went and saw the building the

1228
00:45:52,870 --> 00:45:52,160
other day and the poor thing's falling

1229
00:45:56,069 --> 00:45:52,880
over

1230
00:46:00,470 --> 00:45:56,079
right uh i hope they get it fixed

1231
00:46:02,550 --> 00:46:00,480
it's just gorgeous i have

1232
00:46:04,870 --> 00:46:02,560
i have like a romantic love affair with

1233
00:46:06,710 --> 00:46:04,880
those old buildings and i cannot believe

1234
00:46:09,349 --> 00:46:06,720
when they knock them down or let them go

1235
00:46:11,109 --> 00:46:09,359
it's just ah what are they doing

1236
00:46:14,150 --> 00:46:11,119
i know i could see that they're

1237
00:46:17,030 --> 00:46:14,160
cataloging all of the fallen

1238
00:46:19,589 --> 00:46:17,040
stones i mean this building is just such

1239
00:46:22,230 --> 00:46:19,599
a prime example of art deco

1240
00:46:22,630 --> 00:46:22,240
architecture which is my favorite and

1241
00:46:25,829 --> 00:46:22,640
there's

1242
00:46:27,430 --> 00:46:25,839
columns that have

1243
00:46:29,589 --> 00:46:27,440
fallen to the ground and just the

1244
00:46:32,790 --> 00:46:29,599
brickwork and beautiful

1245
00:46:35,030 --> 00:46:32,800
like corinthian columns inside

1246
00:46:36,230 --> 00:46:35,040
so it looks like they're trying to

1247
00:46:39,349 --> 00:46:36,240
restore it

1248
00:46:42,870 --> 00:46:39,359
but i mean it's going to take so much

1249
00:46:46,710 --> 00:46:42,880
so much to fix it but i hope they do

1250
00:46:49,190 --> 00:46:46,720
because it's such a cool place and

1251
00:46:52,230 --> 00:46:49,200
just so many so many crazy nights

1252
00:46:55,990 --> 00:46:55,030
the woman who owned it actually wanted

1253
00:46:58,150 --> 00:46:56,000
to turn it into her

1254
00:46:59,190 --> 00:46:58,160
residence to live in which i thought she

1255
00:47:00,470 --> 00:46:59,200
was crazy

1256
00:47:02,309 --> 00:47:00,480
there's no way i could live in that

1257
00:47:06,870 --> 00:47:02,319
building it was just so

1258
00:47:09,910 --> 00:47:06,880
noisy with with activity um

1259
00:47:10,630 --> 00:47:09,920
but it sure has a neat history so i i do

1260
00:47:14,710 --> 00:47:10,640
hope

1261
00:47:16,550 --> 00:47:14,720
one of a kind

1262
00:47:18,309 --> 00:47:16,560
and you're right about austin itself

1263
00:47:20,549 --> 00:47:18,319
ogden's crazy to be

1264
00:47:22,230 --> 00:47:20,559
yeah it used to be it was known as the

1265
00:47:24,069 --> 00:47:22,240
gateway to the west

1266
00:47:25,750 --> 00:47:24,079
had the highest crime rate in the entire

1267
00:47:27,109 --> 00:47:25,760
country

1268
00:47:29,750 --> 00:47:27,119
and then you know we got that

1269
00:47:32,230 --> 00:47:29,760
transcontinental railroad

1270
00:47:34,150 --> 00:47:32,240
and it just really yeah it was like

1271
00:47:35,670 --> 00:47:34,160
brothel on every corner

1272
00:47:37,750 --> 00:47:35,680
people getting shot in the street it was

1273
00:47:40,790 --> 00:47:37,760
the wild west

1274
00:47:42,870 --> 00:47:40,800
oh town and there's so many stories

1275
00:47:43,829 --> 00:47:42,880
and you know uh i had an experience at

1276
00:47:46,069 --> 00:47:43,839
the ben

1277
00:47:47,670 --> 00:47:46,079
loma le monde i don't know now i almost

1278
00:47:50,630 --> 00:47:47,680
feel like i'm saying it wrong but

1279
00:47:51,990 --> 00:47:50,640
it's just make it sound fancier yeah

1280
00:47:54,950 --> 00:47:52,000
it's not that fancy

1281
00:47:55,430 --> 00:47:54,960
but it uh i remember the lights would

1282
00:47:57,430 --> 00:47:55,440
switch

1283
00:48:00,150 --> 00:47:57,440
on and off to the point where we had to

1284
00:48:03,750 --> 00:48:00,160
be moved out of our room and so

1285
00:48:05,510 --> 00:48:03,760
there's something about that hotel and

1286
00:48:09,190 --> 00:48:05,520
ogden in general like you said used to

1287
00:48:11,190 --> 00:48:09,200
be such a mecca of just craziness

1288
00:48:12,309 --> 00:48:11,200
yeah i'll never forget the first time i

1289
00:48:18,790 --> 00:48:12,319
ever

1290
00:48:20,150 --> 00:48:18,800
it wasn't until i was in my 20s and i

1291
00:48:23,670 --> 00:48:20,160
remember my whole body

1292
00:48:26,069 --> 00:48:23,680
just uh i was just

1293
00:48:27,270 --> 00:48:26,079
overcome with like the most anxiety i've

1294
00:48:29,349 --> 00:48:27,280
ever felt

1295
00:48:30,870 --> 00:48:29,359
and not not saying anything against the

1296
00:48:32,230 --> 00:48:30,880
city it's a gorgeous city now they've

1297
00:48:34,710 --> 00:48:32,240
done great things

1298
00:48:36,790 --> 00:48:34,720
with it and the people are awesome there

1299
00:48:39,190 --> 00:48:36,800
but there's just a vibe

1300
00:48:40,870 --> 00:48:39,200
and me just being sensitive to areas

1301
00:48:44,710 --> 00:48:40,880
with a lot of

1302
00:48:46,549 --> 00:48:44,720
hauntings or whatever you'd call that um

1303
00:48:48,470 --> 00:48:46,559
it was overwhelming like i couldn't even

1304
00:48:51,990 --> 00:48:48,480
deal with it i had to i had to

1305
00:48:55,270 --> 00:48:52,000
to leave i just got physically ill

1306
00:48:57,670 --> 00:48:55,280
but over the years you know it's fine

1307
00:49:00,390 --> 00:48:57,680
but i just remember that first time

1308
00:49:01,589 --> 00:49:00,400
i was like where am i going what is this

1309
00:49:04,630 --> 00:49:01,599
place

1310
00:49:05,430 --> 00:49:04,640
very twilight zoning very twilight zoney

1311
00:49:08,390 --> 00:49:05,440
yes

1312
00:49:10,470 --> 00:49:08,400
yeah it just kind of feels like its own

1313
00:49:13,670 --> 00:49:10,480
little world

1314
00:49:15,430 --> 00:49:13,680
but but yeah like i said i i went back

1315
00:49:17,510 --> 00:49:15,440
just this last weekend i hadn't been

1316
00:49:20,630 --> 00:49:17,520
there in probably

1317
00:49:22,309 --> 00:49:20,640
at least five or six years and it looks

1318
00:49:23,829 --> 00:49:22,319
so completely different even in that

1319
00:49:27,670 --> 00:49:23,839
time

1320
00:49:30,549 --> 00:49:27,680
um but utah

1321
00:49:31,670 --> 00:49:30,559
utah is the wild west there's anywhere

1322
00:49:33,670 --> 00:49:31,680
you go here

1323
00:49:35,349 --> 00:49:33,680
there's a story if you're if you if you

1324
00:49:37,910 --> 00:49:35,359
go to a historic building

1325
00:49:39,109 --> 00:49:37,920
something crazy has gone down so if

1326
00:49:40,870 --> 00:49:39,119
you're looking for

1327
00:49:42,309 --> 00:49:40,880
a ghost or two this is definitely the

1328
00:49:45,030 --> 00:49:42,319
place

1329
00:49:46,630 --> 00:49:45,040
it is and you you don't stick to utah

1330
00:49:47,510 --> 00:49:46,640
you go all over the place i notice that

1331
00:49:49,270 --> 00:49:47,520
you come down

1332
00:49:51,430 --> 00:49:49,280
to nevada quite often and you've done

1333
00:49:53,030 --> 00:49:51,440
some investigations down here

1334
00:49:55,109 --> 00:49:53,040
i i started doing that during the

1335
00:49:56,549 --> 00:49:55,119
pandemic just because

1336
00:49:58,470 --> 00:49:56,559
you know it's hard to get permission to

1337
00:50:00,230 --> 00:49:58,480
go to any places and i mean if anyone

1338
00:50:01,109 --> 00:50:00,240
wants me to come and investigate i'm all

1339
00:50:02,950 --> 00:50:01,119
for it

1340
00:50:05,190 --> 00:50:02,960
but you know everyone's doing it now so

1341
00:50:07,030 --> 00:50:05,200
it's just kind of over saturated and

1342
00:50:08,309 --> 00:50:07,040
so i figured the only place i can really

1343
00:50:10,950 --> 00:50:08,319
go and

1344
00:50:14,390 --> 00:50:10,960
not get arrested is probably a hotel and

1345
00:50:18,150 --> 00:50:14,400
hotels have always been my favorite

1346
00:50:19,270 --> 00:50:18,160
sort of haunted destination you know i

1347
00:50:21,589 --> 00:50:19,280
just love

1348
00:50:22,870 --> 00:50:21,599
i love a good hotel like there's so many

1349
00:50:24,549 --> 00:50:22,880
stories

1350
00:50:26,150 --> 00:50:24,559
uh you know the stanley hotel that's

1351
00:50:29,589 --> 00:50:26,160
where i had my honeymoon

1352
00:50:32,230 --> 00:50:29,599
stephen king wrote the shining there um

1353
00:50:33,910 --> 00:50:32,240
i there's just something about the

1354
00:50:36,630 --> 00:50:33,920
energy of a hotel

1355
00:50:37,829 --> 00:50:36,640
and vegas just has so many stories as

1356
00:50:42,710 --> 00:50:37,839
you know

1357
00:50:44,309 --> 00:50:42,720
recently

1358
00:50:45,910 --> 00:50:44,319
which a lot of people don't know used to

1359
00:50:48,470 --> 00:50:45,920
be the mgm grand

1360
00:50:49,910 --> 00:50:48,480
and it was in a horrible fire in the 80s

1361
00:50:51,349 --> 00:50:49,920
and so

1362
00:50:53,430 --> 00:50:51,359
a lot of people died there but the

1363
00:50:54,630 --> 00:50:53,440
building is still still standing and

1364
00:50:57,910 --> 00:50:54,640
being used

1365
00:50:59,270 --> 00:50:57,920
as a hotel so i i love the stories of

1366
00:51:01,750 --> 00:50:59,280
vegas

1367
00:51:03,270 --> 00:51:01,760
i grew up going there as a kid every

1368
00:51:06,549 --> 00:51:03,280
summer

1369
00:51:10,630 --> 00:51:06,559
and you know of course there's such a

1370
00:51:13,750 --> 00:51:10,640
such a colorful history in las vegas

1371
00:51:16,790 --> 00:51:13,760
uh there's no shortage

1372
00:51:18,150 --> 00:51:16,800
of ghost stories there either and it's

1373
00:51:21,349 --> 00:51:18,160
just a hop over

1374
00:51:22,790 --> 00:51:21,359
on the freeway that's true and

1375
00:51:24,870 --> 00:51:22,800
but you know now that the world's kind

1376
00:51:27,430 --> 00:51:24,880
of opening back up i'm planning

1377
00:51:28,870 --> 00:51:27,440
uh this in the next few months to go to

1378
00:51:31,910 --> 00:51:28,880
savannah georgia

1379
00:51:33,670 --> 00:51:31,920
see some of the old locations nice

1380
00:51:35,270 --> 00:51:33,680
and then go to gettysburg which i've

1381
00:51:36,710 --> 00:51:35,280
always wanted to do

1382
00:51:39,030 --> 00:51:36,720
has never been there so we're going to

1383
00:51:41,030 --> 00:51:39,040
go there in september

1384
00:51:42,309 --> 00:51:41,040
so i'll be sure to let you know if i

1385
00:51:44,069 --> 00:51:42,319
find anything

1386
00:51:46,069 --> 00:51:44,079
well i think you got two epic trips

1387
00:51:48,630 --> 00:51:46,079
ahead of you i'm so peanut butter and

1388
00:51:50,950 --> 00:51:48,640
jealous on both of those

1389
00:51:53,109 --> 00:51:50,960
get a gettysburg is supposed to be just

1390
00:51:56,150 --> 00:51:53,119
over the top

1391
00:51:59,750 --> 00:51:56,160
oh i know i ca i can't even

1392
00:52:01,430 --> 00:51:59,760
imagine how that's gonna feel to visit

1393
00:52:03,190 --> 00:52:01,440
and then of course i'm gonna go up to

1394
00:52:05,430 --> 00:52:03,200
upstate new york that place is just

1395
00:52:06,549 --> 00:52:05,440
filled with awesome history and visit

1396
00:52:09,750 --> 00:52:06,559
our friend janice

1397
00:52:11,109 --> 00:52:09,760
going to see her in this number so i'm

1398
00:52:13,349 --> 00:52:11,119
excited

1399
00:52:15,030 --> 00:52:13,359
um i just that's that's what i love to

1400
00:52:16,230 --> 00:52:15,040
do like i said i just i love a good

1401
00:52:20,870 --> 00:52:16,240
story

1402
00:52:22,710 --> 00:52:20,880
i love a good old building there's just

1403
00:52:24,390 --> 00:52:22,720
something about it for me that i just

1404
00:52:26,470 --> 00:52:24,400
love it heck yeah

1405
00:52:28,069 --> 00:52:26,480
and we'll have to investigate again soon

1406
00:52:28,950 --> 00:52:28,079
i wish i was going up to say hi to

1407
00:52:32,150 --> 00:52:28,960
janice too

1408
00:52:34,150 --> 00:52:32,160
haven't been up that way and um

1409
00:52:35,750 --> 00:52:34,160
for our listeners where can they keep up

1410
00:52:37,990 --> 00:52:35,760
with your new youtube channel

1411
00:52:39,510 --> 00:52:38,000
the uh paranormal polynesian and

1412
00:52:42,470 --> 00:52:39,520
whatever else you have going on

1413
00:52:43,589 --> 00:52:42,480
oh yeah uh it's just the paranormal

1414
00:52:47,030 --> 00:52:43,599
polynesian

1415
00:52:48,790 --> 00:52:47,040
on youtube facebook instagram

1416
00:52:50,630 --> 00:52:48,800
i'm working on a patreon i don't know

1417
00:52:51,829 --> 00:52:50,640
what that is sweet and i heard it's a

1418
00:52:55,349 --> 00:52:51,839
good thing so

1419
00:52:57,030 --> 00:52:55,359
that'll be up that'll be up soon

1420
00:52:58,470 --> 00:52:57,040
but it's all just under the paranormal

1421
00:53:01,829 --> 00:52:58,480
polynesian so

1422
00:53:03,510 --> 00:53:01,839
pretty easy to find man that's awesome

1423
00:53:04,950 --> 00:53:03,520
and i can't thank you enough for carving

1424
00:53:07,109 --> 00:53:04,960
away a little time to chat

1425
00:53:08,630 --> 00:53:07,119
and come on the podcast i hope we

1426
00:53:10,950 --> 00:53:08,640
connect soon and hopefully

1427
00:53:12,390 --> 00:53:10,960
uh have a little high strangeness there

1428
00:53:14,069 --> 00:53:12,400
i know me too thank you

1429
00:53:15,829 --> 00:53:14,079
thank you so much for having me ryan i

1430
00:53:17,510 --> 00:53:15,839
appreciate it all right take care my man

1431
00:53:22,870 --> 00:53:17,520
we'll talk soon take care bye-bye

1432
00:53:27,349 --> 00:53:24,870
well there you have it the paranormal

1433
00:53:30,950 --> 00:53:27,359
polynesian adam taula himself

1434
00:53:34,069 --> 00:53:30,960
going into the high strangeness of utah

1435
00:53:35,270 --> 00:53:34,079
the uintah basin ogden and well his

1436
00:53:37,270 --> 00:53:35,280
favorite queen mary

1437
00:53:39,190 --> 00:53:37,280
i really feel like i missed the boat no

1438
00:53:41,589 --> 00:53:39,200
pun intended i think that's something

1439
00:53:43,190 --> 00:53:41,599
that i had an opportunity to do

1440
00:53:45,190 --> 00:53:43,200
i may not be able to rise to the

1441
00:53:46,150 --> 00:53:45,200
occasion to do it now given the current

1442
00:53:48,549 --> 00:53:46,160
circumstances

1443
00:53:50,470 --> 00:53:48,559
so for all of you that got to visit that

1444
00:53:53,270 --> 00:53:50,480
uh kudos

1445
00:53:53,990 --> 00:53:53,280
and that's how these things go it moves

1446
00:53:57,430 --> 00:53:54,000
quickly

1447
00:53:57,829 --> 00:53:57,440
jump on these opportunities while you

1448
00:54:00,270 --> 00:53:57,839
can

1449
00:54:01,910 --> 00:54:00,280
and uh definitely jump on

1450
00:54:04,150 --> 00:54:01,920
heroparanormal.com

1451
00:54:06,069 --> 00:54:04,160
smash that donate button join the inner

1452
00:54:08,470 --> 00:54:06,079
circle or go to patreon

1453
00:54:10,710 --> 00:54:08,480
and definitely support adam taula at the

1454
00:54:12,950 --> 00:54:10,720
paranormal polynesian on youtube

1455
00:54:13,910 --> 00:54:12,960
and when he gets his patreon up support

1456
00:54:15,910 --> 00:54:13,920
him there

1457
00:54:18,150 --> 00:54:15,920
again thanks for listening in and until

1458
00:54:20,230 --> 00:54:18,160
next time keep your eyes to the skies

1459
00:54:29,430 --> 00:54:20,240
feet on the ground but don't forget to